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DF64 Coffee Grinder
Retail Price
$599
Lowest Price
$345
Release Date
2021
The DF64 is an excellent grinder with some minor caveats: its design is somewhat underwhelming and it needs a few mods for improving its performance, but with its 64mm flat burrs, a stepless grind adjustment, and its low retention, this grinder is an appealing choice for those looking for an affordable single dosing coffee grinder. It is suitable for espresso and filter coffee, favoring the former a little more than the latter, and it is widely available in the market too.
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Overview
- Summary
- Overview - Grind Quality
- Overview - Build
- Overview - Popularity
- Positive
- Negative
Summary - The DF64 is an excellent grinder with some minor caveats: its design is somewhat underwhelming and it needs a few mods for improving its performance, but with its 64mm flat burrs, a stepless grind adjustment, and its low retention, this grinder is an appealing choice for those looking for an affordable single dosing coffee grinder. It is suitable for espresso and filter coffee, favoring the former a little more than the latter, and it is widely available in the market too.
Overview - Grind Quality - The DF64 Coffee Grinder is believed to deliver great ground coffee at espresso and filter settings, and at its price point, there are no other grinders that can outperform it when it comes to single dose flat-burred grinding, with the range and motor power that it contains. This grinder has a solid foundation and allows choice when it comes to workflow and burst perspective, and for those who wish to get creative, the grinder performs well above its price point. The DF64 appeared at the beginning of 2021 and became one of the most widely-known grinders on the market at present as it filled a niche trend of single-dosing, multi-purpose grinders.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
r/espresso
06/10/2021
Overview - Build - The DF64 is a single dose grinder that has no hopper but instead has bellows set up. It has 64 millimeter burrs, hence the name DF64. It is a coffee grinder for the home that boasts low retention.
Overview - Popularity - It’s an unusual grinder made by a virtually unknown Chinese company, which came at the right place at the right time. It’s a perfect storm of several coffee forum trends packed into one, affordable package. The new grinder is (most often) called DF64 and it is produced in China by a hitherto unknown company known as FL Coffee. It has already been sold under a range of different names in various parts of the world: Probarista G-IOTA in Belgium, Turin 64SD ELR in the US , The Solo in England, DF64 on Amazon. Confusingly, the Turin DF64 grinder is sold under several different names, depending on the distributor and country it is purchased in.
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- Summary
- Overview - Grind Quality
- Overview - Build
- Overview - Popularity
Sources
- The Coffee Folk
- Home Grounds
- YouTube
- The Coffee Chronicler
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
r/espresso
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
HomeGrounds
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Specifications
- Specifications
- Positive
- Negative
Specifications - The DF64 Coffee Grinder has the following specifications: a 64mm flat burrs from Italmill, 1400 RPM speed, 15 lbs.(6.8 kg.) weight, dimensions (L x W x H respectively) of 10” x 5.2” x 12”, single dose operation, and stepless grind settings.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
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- Specifications
Sources
- The Coffee Folk
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
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Pros & Cons
- Pros
- Cons
- Cons - Reasons Not to Buy
- Positive
- Negative
Pros - The DF64 Coffee Grinder has the following advantages: 64mm flat burrs, stepless grind adjustment, low retention, superb grind quality for espresso, excellent price, and ability to be modded or upgraded.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Cons - The DF64 Coffee Grinder has the following disadvantages: issues with static, issues with popcorning, and issues with regrinding.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Cons - Reasons Not to Buy - Don’t buy the Turin DF64 if one is not in the market for single dose, wants conical burrs and wants variable RPM control.
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Build Quality & Design
- Build Quality
- Build - Frame
- Build - Weight - Material
- Burrs
- Color Options
- Design - Portafilter
- Dosing Cup
- Durability
- Foundation
- Grinder - Dimensions
- Grind Adjustment
- Positive
- Negative
Build Quality - The DF64 is well built, with most parts being made from metal. It weighs 15 lbs and measures 10” by 5.2” by 12”. The compact footprint means it can easily slip into a spare space on the kitchen bench. It has a fully metal build that comes in a bunch of different colors.
Build - Frame - The core of the grinder is all metal which gives it a good sturdy frame.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Build - Weight - Material - The DF64 has a surprising heft at 15 pounds. It's heavy, it feels premium and even the motor sounds good too. The Turin DF64 is mostly made of metal, thus the weight.
Burrs - The DF64, as the name indicates, uses 64 millimeter flat burrs, which makes it relatively easy to purchase new burrs when wanting to explore other options than the stock burrs. Grinders with burrs this size are not typically found at this price point. The burr size means that enthusiasts can switch the burrs out for better quality ones, which is the route most choose.
Color Options - The grinder is wrapped in an adhesive foil which is available in a large array of colors; black, white, yellow, green, or silver to add a pop of color to the kitchen.
Design - Portafilter - The design of the Turin DF64 is simple and minimalist; it has a simple design that is functional but a bit rough around the edges. When comparing it to the Niche Zero, it lacks finesse. Like the Niche and the Eureka Oro, the DF64 has a sloping shape to reduce retention. It has a tubular body, with a slight forward lean popular in this grinder. With no fancy computers or touch screens, things that do go wrong are easy to repair.
Dosing Cup - The DF64 includes a little plastic dosing cup, which for some is preferable to grinding directly into a portafilter, but others don't like the plastic.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Durability - The grinder feels extremely sturdy. While the durability of the DF64 is largely untested, so far, it seems to have been well received with few reports of issues. At this point, it’s tough to gauge durability as the DF64 has only been on the market for a short time. Additionally, because a largely unknown Chinese company manufactures it, there are no other products from the brand to use as a guideline.
Foundation - The grinder has a good foundation owing to the fact that most of the budget seemed to not have gone towards the design itself but in the features instead.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Grinder - Dimensions - The grinder is compact, measuring 12″ tall by 5 “wide by 10” deep. Plus, as a single-dosing grinder, it needs no hopper.
HomeGrounds
Grind Adjustment - The grind adjustment felt nice and smooth through the large stepless adjustment ring.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
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- Build Quality
- Build - Frame
- Build - Weight - Material
- Burrs
- Color Options
- Design - Portafilter
- Dosing Cup
- Durability
- Foundation
- Grinder - Dimensions
- Grind Adjustment
Sources
- The Coffee Folk
- YouTube
- Home Grounds
- The Coffee Chronicler
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
HomeGrounds
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
HomeGrounds
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
HomeGrounds
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
HomeGrounds
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
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Features
- Bellows
- Burrs
- Capacity
- Dial Setting
- Dosing Cup - Bellows
- Grind Adjustment
- Grind Adjustment Ring
- Motor
- Power Button
- Positive
- Negative
Bellows - The DF64’s bellows feel a little hacky, like they weren’t designed to clear the grounds chamber adequately. As a result they don’t feel particularly premium and are messy.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Burrs - The DF64 includes a good set of flat burrs from Italmill. There is a plate that sits on threading, which is outside of the burr chamber. The top burr sits against three springs that hold it against that top plate. When screwed in and out, this is pressed closer, allowing more to come further away from the bottom rotating burr. The shape of the burrs is the big difference between the Niche Zero and the DF64. The Niche Zero uses a conical burr set, as opposed to the flat burrs in the DF64. Changing and cleaning the burrs is simple and easy. The DF64 has a unimodal style burr.
Capacity - The grounds bin with 30 grams of coffee doesn't look that full, but any fuller than this, when using the bellows, will start to get coffee blown out of the grinder by the bellows and make a mess.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Dial Setting - The grinder has a dial setting that needs multiple rotations to go from filter to espresso.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Dosing Cup - Bellows - There is a plastic dosing cup which feels cheap. Meanwhile the bellows are made of metal which makes it feel premium compared to the dosing cup.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Grind Adjustment - The grind adjustment feels very nice to use; it has very good tension similar to the Niche Zero.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Grind Adjustment Ring - The grind adjustment ring on the top of the grinder is easy to navigate. There are 90 marked grind settings, but it is a stepless adjustment system so one can precisely dial in grind size. Because of this, the grinder has potentially infinite precision when it comes to dialing in the perfect brew.
Motor - The burrs are powered by a 250-watt motor that rotates at a high speed of 1400 rpm.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Power Button - The power button underneath the dosing cup is in an awkward placement but the fact that it lights up to tell when the grinder is plugged and there is power is a good thing.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
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Tags
- Bellows
- Burrs
- Capacity
- Dial Setting
- Dosing Cup - Bellows
- Grind Adjustment
- Grind Adjustment Ring
- Motor
- Power Button
Sources
- YouTube
- Home Grounds
- The Coffee Folk
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
HomeGrounds
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
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Performance
- Burr Alignment
- Ease of Use
- Filter Brewing
- Grinding Capability
- Grinding Speed
- Grind Quality
- Grind Retention
- Noise
- Performance - Taste - Burrs
- Performance - Espresso Settings
- Performance - Filtered Coffee Setting
- Performance - Grinding Speed - Burrs
- Performance - Grind Sizes - Retention
- Performance - Motor - Power
- Performance - Produced Espresso
- Performance - Retention
- Pour Over
- RPM/Speed
- Sifting Tests
- Taste
- Uniformity
- Positive
- Negative
Burr Alignment - Most DF64’s come with a decent burr alignment from the factory.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Ease of Use - The DF64 is straightforward to use; simply weigh the desired dose and grind. This ease of use is one of the grinder’s selling points, along with a portafilter holding fork. The fork means one can grind directly into the portafilter, which is not present with the Niche Zero.
Filter Brewing - The grinder produces a pretty good grind profile for filter coffee, and the filter coffee it has historically produced has been very nice.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Grinding Capability - The grinding capability of the DF64 burr grinder is excellent, especially given its great price.
HomeGrounds
Grinding Speed - The DF64’s grinding speed is seen as average.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Grind Quality - The grind quality of the DF64 is impressive for its price point.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Grind Retention - The DF64 has low retention, especially when using the bellows to blow out any residual grinds.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Noise - The DF64 coffee grinder is reasonably quiet with the stock burr set, but upon upgrading to SSP burrs, it is substantially louder, to the point of being unpleasant.
HomeGrounds
Performance - Taste - Burrs - The DF64 performs great and with the SSP burrs it should yield even better taste.
r/espresso
04/25/2021
Performance - Espresso Settings - The Itamill burrs of the DF64 do a great job for espresso. The espresso is clean with a lot of transparency; it's not the best, they're not as good as the SSP burrs, but out of the box, for most it's an enjoyable experience.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Performance - Filtered Coffee Setting - The DF64’s performance for filtered coffee is impressive as the coffee is clean and very sweet.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Performance - Grinding Speed - Burrs - The DF64 is nice and quiet when in use. It grinds relatively quickly thanks to the 64-millimeter burs and is clean when using rdt.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Performance - Grind Sizes - Retention - The DF64’s available grind sizes easily cover from french press to espresso fine and it was able to keep retention under 0.2 grams through the use of the bellows.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Performance - Motor - Power - The DF64’s motor is quite powerful at 250 watts.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Performance - Produced Espresso - When producing espresso with the DF64, the sweetness is there, it has okay to good clarity, and the texture is nice.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Performance - Retention - With the bellows, the DF64 is a relatively low retention grinder, which is one of its big selling points. If one does not use the bellows there will be some retention, but not much. Overall, it performs better than most other grinders in this area. Flat burrs typically retain more grounds than conical, but the bellows design of the DF64 alleviates this problem.
Pour Over - One can make pour over with the DF64, but the grinder is optimized for espresso.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
RPM/Speed - The DF64’s motor RPM is 1400, which is at the higher end of burr grinders. It does not have variable RPM.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Sifting Tests - Sifting tests indicated that the DF64 is less uniform than the Comandante C40 and 1Zpresso Jx out of the box.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Taste - There are claims that the grinder tastes great for all brewing methods right out of the box with the stock 64 mm Italmill burrs. It tastes quite good for espresso, but not that impressive when it comes to the coarser grinds.
Uniformity - The DF31 has a wider distribution of grounds, allowing for more uniformity when grinding, which is the preference of some.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
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Tags
- Burr Alignment
- Ease of Use
- Filter Brewing
- Grinding Capability
- Grinding Speed
- Grind Quality
- Grind Retention
- Noise
- Performance - Taste - Burrs
- Performance - Espresso Settings
- Performance - Filtered Coffee Setting
- Performance - Grinding Speed - Burrs
- Performance - Grind Sizes - Retention
- Performance - Motor - Power
- Performance - Produced Espresso
- Performance - Retention
- Pour Over
- RPM/Speed
- Sifting Tests
- Taste
- Uniformity
Sources
- The Coffee Chronicler
- The Coffee Folk
- Home Grounds
- YouTube
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
Home Grounds
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
HomeGrounds
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
r/espresso
04/25/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
HomeGrounds
HomeGrounds
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
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Comparison
- Comparison vs. Baratza Sette
- Comparison vs. Lagom P64
- Comparison vs. Niche Zero
- Comparison vs. Oro
- Comparison vs. Pricier Grinder
- Positive
- Negative
Comparison vs. Baratza Sette - The DF64 feels more sturdy compared to the Baratza Sette.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Comparison vs. Lagom P64 - The DF64 bears some resemblance to other well known models; especially the Lagom P64. However, the DF64 only costs around one-third of the price.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Comparison vs. Niche Zero - The DF64 is considered to be the very strongest competitor to the Niche. The Niche is a little bit more expensive at about 500 pounds, and they are a little bit more supply constrained. The DF64 is cheaper and is a flat burr grinder, as opposed to a conical burr grinder with the Niche. Given the upgradable nature of the DF64, there is a ton more discussion about modifications, shortcomings, etc. A lot of the Niche posts are excited people pre-ordering or receiving their grinders. All conicals and flats are different as well so it's not as simple as flats Vs conicals. Both grinders taste good. The Niche has only some minor and fixable flaws. Choosing between the DF64 and the Niche comes down to 2 main decisions: “flat burrs or conical burrs?” “How important is workflow?” “Is preference towards easy to use or modding?” The biggest Niche killer is that it's only available every 2 months and will sell out in minutes, like an apple iphone. It is ready to use out of the box without hassle but one can't tinker with it much. The DF64is quirky, needs a lot of fondling to get the gist of its handling, but has potential to tweak certain points. The DF64 makes good coffee but some corners cut in the design/UX. Not a huge loss experience wise, good price to performance, and better availability - seems like a really good option for a lot of people. The DF64 is mass-manufactured in China. Grind quality is great on the DF64, the price is great, but the user experience is inferior to that of the Niche. The DF64 is a great alternative to the Niche, and probably easier to obtain, besides aesthetics and some usability - which are both down to personal preference. The DF64's dosing cups has "ears" that slide into the portafilter fork. If buying an aftermarket dosing cup it would need to fit the pf fork.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
03/21/2021
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03/21/2021
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03/21/2021
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06/10/2021
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06/10/2021
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04/25/2021
r/espresso
04/25/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
Comparison vs. Oro - The DF64 is a Chinese make grinder; its price is very affordable for what it's offering. The workflow is actually much better on the DF64 than the oro single dose.
Comparison vs. Pricier Grinder - If using just as a filter coffee grinder, the comparison point wouldn't really be the Niche, it would be the Wilfa Uniform or the Fellow Ode, which are both a little cheaper than the DF64. It does perform better as a filter-only grinder and that's with stock burrs or with SSP burrs.
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Tags
- Comparison vs. Baratza Sette
- Comparison vs. Lagom P64
- Comparison vs. Niche Zero
- Comparison vs. Oro
- Comparison vs. Pricier Grinder
Sources
- The Coffee Chronicler
- YouTube
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
r/espresso
03/21/2021
r/espresso
03/21/2021
r/espresso
03/21/2021
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03/21/2021
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06/10/2021
r/espresso
06/10/2021
r/espresso
04/25/2021
r/espresso
04/25/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
r/espresso
09/16/2021
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
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Price & Availability
- Availability
- Price - Alibaba
- Price - Amazon
- Price - American Importer
- Price - Value
- Value for Money
- Positive
- Negative
Availability - The DF64 is available in Amazon and Espresso Outlet in the US.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Price - Alibaba - If buying the DF64 from Alibaba in China, the price is $520, including shipping, although one may face some import duty fees.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Price - Amazon - Amazon recently started offering the grinder at a very competitive price as well.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Price - American Importer - The cost from the American importer is $599.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Price - Value - Prices vary depending on location. In the UK, it's about 400+ pounds. It has been seen on sale for about 400 euros, and for five to 600 US dollars. Even though most people wouldn’t consider this cheap for a coffee grinder, it’s an attractive price for a well-built flat burr espresso grinder.
Value for Money - There simply is no other grinder in this price range that can compete with the premium grind quality offered by the DF64. Value for money is where the DF64 shines. It probably does not match the Niche Zero or Eureka Mignon in terms of quality. Still, it is also notably less expensive than those options — depending to some extent on where in the world it’s ordered from. If wanting a high-end coffee grinder that can grind consistently for an espresso or a pour-over, the DF64 is one of the least expensive options other than a hand coffee grinder.
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- Availability
- Price - Alibaba
- Price - Amazon
- Price - American Importer
- Price - Value
- Value for Money
Sources
- The Coffee Chronicler
- YouTube
- The Coffee Folk
- Home Grounds
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
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Miscellaneous
- Complaints - Plastic
- Customer Support
- Downsides - Button
- Downsides - Noise
- Downsides - Plastic
- Downsides - Static Cling
- Drawback - Anti-Popcorn
- Drawback - Dosing Cup
- Drawback - Messy
- Issue - Adjustment Settings
- Issue - Alignment
- Issue - Awkward Fork - Power Button Location
- Issue - Burrs
- Issue - Chaff
- Issue - Circuit Board - Power Button
- Issue - Declumper
- Issue - Design
- Issue - Dosing Cup - Portafilter - Forks
- Issue - Dosing Cup
- Issue - Grind Dial
- Issue - Grinding Performance
- Issue - Grind Settings
- Issue - Lid - Grinding - Popcorning
- Issue - Popcorning
- Issue - Portafilter
- Issue - Regrinding
- Issue - Static
- Issue - Stock Burrs
- Maintenance
- Manufacturer
- Upgrade - SSP Burrs
- Positive
- Negative
Complaints - Plastic - The portafilter forks aren’t the strongest, and it is not recommended leaving the portafilter on them unsupervised. Likewise, the dosing cup looks and feels a bit cheap, but this can easily be remedied by investing in a stainless steel one.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Customer Support - One thing to keep in mind, because the company is so new and relatively unknown, one may have trouble accessing good customer support if things go wrong with this grinder.
HomeGrounds
Downsides - Button - There’s no switch to disconnect the power. And the on/off button is located in an annoying spot.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Downsides - Noise - With the regular burrs the DF64 is pretty average when it comes to noise. However, when putting in the SSP Multipurpose burrs suddenly it’s a decibel monster.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Downsides - Plastic - The dosing cup and the portafilter holder are made out of a cheap-looking plastic. It should be easy enough to find a replacement in the case of an accident.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Downsides - Static Cling - The distance between the spout and the dosing cup is long enough that microscopic fines can escape. This is annoying when brewing lighter roasts for filter and using the bellows, resulting in a mess. RDT is advised.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Drawback - Anti-Popcorn - Since the DF64 doesn’t have a proper solution for popcorning, it’s only fair to assume that it’s not working as well as it could out of the box.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Drawback - Dosing Cup - The plastic dosing cup is a disappointment. It feels, looks, and is cheap. If anything is going to break it’s probably that, though some appreciate that it’s transparent.
HomeGrounds
Drawback - Messy - One downside of the DF64 is the mess, especially when grinding lighter roasts. The combination of static and an overly large gap between the dosing cup and the grinder’s spout inevitably leads to a spray of fine grounds over the countertop and grinder.
HomeGrounds
Issue - Adjustment Settings - With the DF64 dial, while it is nice to use it can be hard to see what adjustment number one is at.
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Issue - Alignment - Some people have been lucky with great alignment from the factory, while others have had to work more for it. Using an erasable marker seems to be the most widespread method, when checking whether the burrs are parallel.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Issue - Awkward Fork - Power Button Location - Adding to the awkwardness of the forks is the fact that the power button is located directly below them making it tricky to press while trying to not knock down the dosing cup.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Issue - Burrs - In practice, most users find that the stock burr set is excellent for espresso but less reliable at coarser grind sizes. For this reason, a common choice is to upgrade to SSP burrs.
HomeGrounds
Issue - Chaff - A user tweaked a few small things that have (mostly) eliminated the chaff issue, but these tweaks don’t address the unpolished workflow.
r/espresso
06/10/2021
Issue - Circuit Board - Power Button - Suddenly, the power-button couldn’t turn off the grinder anymore. The circuit board ended up needing a replacement as a result. Apparently, a few of the first units coming out of the factory have had this issue.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Issue - Declumper - Espresso grinders typically have a little screen installed at the chute that can help break break up clumps and reduce static, however, with the 1st generation of the DF64 this declumper was too restrictive in its flow.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Issue - Design - For overall user experience, the DF64 is okay. Design wise it’s not bad but not that good either.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Issue - Dosing Cup - Portafilter - Forks - There are some good designs for grind indicators but it's up to consumers to put one on. Some opted to use the included dosing cup with the grinder not just because it’s the preferred workflow but also because the forks did a very poor job of holding a heavy portafilter in place.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Issue - Dosing Cup - The dosing cup has an issue in that it's not particularly well set up. When one presses the bellows, quite a good bit of coffee comes out. And that coffee is held behind a silicon declumping screen.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Issue - Grind Dial - The large grind dial is great but there is no way to accurately see exactly what grind setting one is at which is an issue when often switching between espresso and other brew styles.
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Issue - Grinding Performance - There was an issue with actual grinding performance of the DF64. There were a surprising amount of fines in the grounds which upon investigation, what was initially thought to be caused by misaligned or poor quality burrs was in fact a problem with the silicone clump crusher being far too stiff, effectively creating a complete seal. Cutting the fins to make them less obtrusive to the grind fixed the issue and improved the quality of the grinds.
Issue - Grind Settings - With the dial, it's not recommended to take it much past zero. The grinder settings are a bit limited with regards to range.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Issue - Lid - Grinding - Popcorning - The lid is awkward and not an enjoyable experience. The grinder can sometimes struggle to clear the last few beans. It has a popcorning issue as well.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Issue - Popcorning - The difference between this grinder and other single dosers is that one is not going to be able to pour beans in with the burrs already spinning. The DF64 has a lot of popcorning which necessitates the use of a permanent cap over the bellows’ opening. The other issue the DF64 struggles with is popcorning. This is when the last few beans in the bellow bounce around and struggle to go down, leading to a reduction in grind consistency.
Issue - Portafilter - The portafilter does not stay in very well, and it will wiggle its way out as the DF64 grinds.
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Issue - Regrinding - The DF64, like most espresso grinders, has a declumping screen installed in the chute to break up clumps and reduce static. However, this screen also hinders the flow of coffee down the chute, resulting in some of the coffee being reground and producing fines.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Issue - Static - Unfortunately, the DF64 has some issues with static. This is caused by the large gap between the spout and dosing cup, allowing particles to escape.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Issue - Stock Burrs - Even though the stock burrs have an espresso-focused geometry, they perform well enough for pour over. There are however three main problems: regrinding via declumper, poor alignment, and lack of anti-popcorning disk.
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Maintenance - The DF64 is very simple to maintain. The main issue to contend with is the static cling, so one will have to do a bit of cleaning after each use.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Manufacturer - The DF64 is produced by an unknown Chinese company. To make things even more confusing, the grinder goes by different names depending on where one is located. The DF64 coffee grinder is also known as the Solo, G-IOTA, or the Turin 64S4.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Upgrade - SSP Burrs - Many are choosing to upgrade to SSP burrs which drastically enhances the grind quality. While this does require an additional few hundred dollars, it still comes in cheaper than the Niche Zero.
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
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- Complaints - Plastic
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- Downsides - Button
- Downsides - Noise
- Downsides - Plastic
- Downsides - Static Cling
- Drawback - Anti-Popcorn
- Drawback - Dosing Cup
- Drawback - Messy
- Issue - Adjustment Settings
- Issue - Alignment
- Issue - Awkward Fork - Power Button Location
- Issue - Burrs
- Issue - Chaff
- Issue - Circuit Board - Power Button
- Issue - Declumper
- Issue - Design
- Issue - Dosing Cup - Portafilter - Forks
- Issue - Dosing Cup
- Issue - Grind Dial
- Issue - Grinding Performance
- Issue - Grind Settings
- Issue - Lid - Grinding - Popcorning
- Issue - Popcorning
- Issue - Portafilter
- Issue - Regrinding
- Issue - Static
- Issue - Stock Burrs
- Maintenance
- Manufacturer
- Upgrade - SSP Burrs
Sources
- The Coffee Folk
- Home Grounds
- The Coffee Chronicler
- YouTube
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
HomeGrounds
HomeGrounds
Kyle Rowsell
01/28/2022
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
HomeGrounds
r/espresso
06/10/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Lifestyle Lab
09/05/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
HomeGrounds
James Hoffman
06/10/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Asser Christensen - The Coffee Chronicler
11/01/2021
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
Amy Hyslop - The Coffee Folk
02/12/2022
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